Brazil will not “shy away” from championing a phaseout of fossil fuels as host of COP30 next year, even if it is a major oil producer, the country’s climate envoy said Wednesday. Ana Toni told AFP that Brazil wanted to spur a global “debate” about how to turn a promised fossil fuel phasedown into action, including through possible taxes on coal, oil and gas. “This should be a just transition on stopping fossil fuels,” Toni, who is Brazil’s national secretary for climate change, said in an interview on the sidelines of the COP29 summit in Azerbaijan. “We will never shy away from those very important discussions because it is in our own interests.” COP30 will be the third consecutive year the UN’s top climate talks have been held in a country that plans to expand domestic production of fossil fuels. Brazil is the largest oil producer in Latin America, and its COP30 comes after COP29 in Azerbaijan and last year’s COP28 in the United Arab Emirates.